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Post by Slickbackcadillac on Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:21 am

I know the r33 brake calipers are a good upgrade as well as ford ba rotors just wondering does the rotors fit on perfect or do u need some special ring or something

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Re: Brake upgrade

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Re: Brake upgrade

Post by Gordon Duax on Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:44 am

You need 11mm spacers, longer bolts, and centering rings for the rotors.
I used to sell the kits, and I know I still have the bolts & spacers.
I will have to look to see if I still have the rings.

You can also use the R32 GT-R calipers, and rotors, with the same adaptor kit.
They are 296mm diameter, where the Z32 are 280mm.
The mount legs on the GT-R calipers are just a little longer.
And Nissan Motorsports used to sell the rotors, the calipers would have to come out of Japan.



A third option is the Z32 calipers, with off the shelf adaptors to use the 350Z 'Track' rotors.
But you still need to space the calipers over with 11mm spacers, since the adaptors are ment for the 240SX guys.



I've moved up to 330mm fronts now, using Z32 calipers, with custom adaptors.
Just a tad larger then the 350Z Track rotors, but with Wilwood rotors that weigh half of the Nissan rotors.


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Re: Brake upgrade

Post by forgottenzone on Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:30 pm

I did my R32 Front upgrade with Mazda MPV Sloted and drilled rotors. which are a lot cheaper then the Nissan rotors.

MX83--Z32 280x30 caliper --MPV rotor RDA960 or DBA960 rotor size=276d x64h x28t/ Landcrusier pads DB1199 (Centric ring=yes) (3mm caliper spacer)

I used EBC brake pads from Range rover. they cover more surface. and there is no need for an caliper adapter. You can use 2 washers. I made a plate instead of using the 2 washers. and it also needs centric rings.

Here are some pictures:









The Spacers i made keep the calipers centered properly to the rotors.
Here's the spacers and centric rings I made for it:




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Post by forgottenzone on Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:36 pm

Here is some Data Information on what calipers with with what rotors, what spacers and centric rings are needed:

MX83--R32 280x30 caliper:
Z32 rotors 280x54x30 (centric ring=yes 60.1mmID 68mmOD 5mm thick)(caliper spacer=yes 11.6mm)

MX83--Z32 280x30 caliper:
Z32 rotors 280x54x30 (centric ring=yes 60.1mmID 68mmOD 5mm thick)(caliper spacer=yes 11.6mm)

MX83--R32 280x26 caliper:
300zx 280x54x26 (centric ring=yes) (Caliper spacer=yes should be same as z32 rotor spacer)

MX83--Z32 280x26 caliper:
300zx 280x54x26 (centric ring=yes) (Caliper spacer=yes should be same as z32 rotor spacer)

MX83--Z32 280x30 caliper:
MPV rotor RDA960 or DBA960 rotor size=276d x64h x28t/ Landcrusier pads DB1199 (Centric ring=yes) (3mm caliper spacer)
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Post by forgottenzone on Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:13 am

Here is some good Nissan Caliper Information:

R32 T : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTS-T (early) : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTS-T type m : 280mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTR : 296mm x 32mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTR VSPEC : 324mm x 30mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
R33 GTS-25 : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R33 GTS-4 : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R33 GTS-25T : 296mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R33 GTR : 324mm x 32mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
R33 GTR VSPEC : 324mm x 30mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
R34 GT : 296mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R34 GTT : 310mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R34 GTR : 324mm x 32mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
Z33 NA : 324mm x 32mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
Z32 NA : 280mm x 26mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
Z32 TT : 280mm x 30mm (4 pot ali sumitomo caliper)
S14, S15 : 280mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)


more info

R32 GTST
Master Cylinder diam (mm) - 25.4 area 506.71mm^2
Front Caliper Piston(diam x qty) - 40.4 ?4 = 5127.58mm^2
Front rotors (diam x thk) - 280?30
Rear Caliper Piston(diam x qty) - 38.18?2 = 2289.78mm^2 ratio FR = 2.239
Rear Rotors (diam x thk) - 297?18
total 7417.36 brake to master ratio 14.63


R33 GTST
Master Cylinder diam (mm) - 23.8 444.88mm^2
Front Caliper Piston(diam x qty) - 40.4 ?4 = 5127.58mm^2
Front rotors (diam x thk) - 296?30
Rear Caliper Piston(diam x qty) - 38.18?2 = 2289.78mm^2 ratio FR = 2.239
Rear Rotors (diam x thk) - 297?18
Total area 7417.36mm^2 brake to master ratio 16.67

R32 GTR (Non V-Spec,)
Master Cylinder diam (mm) - 25.4
Front Caliper Piston(diam x qty) - 40.4 ?4
Front rotors (diam x thk) - 296?32
Rear Caliper Piston(diam x qty) - 38.18?2
Rear Rotors (diam x thk) - 297?18

R32 GTR V-Spec / R33 / 34 GTR with Brembos
Master Cylinder diam (mm) - 26.9 568.32mm^2
Front Caliper Piston(diam x qty) - (44+3?2 ... leading pistons smaller then trailing 5309.29mm^2
Front rotors (diam x thk) - 324?30
Rear Caliper Piston(diam x qty) - 40?2 2513.27mm^2 ratio FR = 2.1125
Rear Rotors (diam x thk) - 300?22
total 7822.56 brake to master ratio 13.76

This is the ratio of master piston movement to overall brake pad movement
R32/GTR calliper ratio 15.43
R33/GTR calliper ratio 17.58
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Re: Brake upgrade

Post by Slickbackcadillac on Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:13 am

does anyone know if the spacer and ring blue prints on the jzxproject forum posted above will work for the r33 callipers and ba rotors

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Post by Slickbackcadillac on Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:18 am

if your upgrading the rear callipers do they need the same treatment

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Re: Brake upgrade

Post by Gordon Duax on Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:00 am

Rears are more difficult.
I bought one of the kits from Japan.
To use the R32/Z32 rear calipers, you need more than just spacers for the calipers, but an actual adaptor.
And the Japanese kit is for 305mm rotors from a JZX100 Toure-V.
There is no US interchange.





And when talking about Skyline front calipers, beware which ones you have, as the GT-S have the same spacing as the Z32, but the GT-R has longer legs to use with larger disks.

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Re: Brake upgrade

Post by Slickbackcadillac on Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:48 am

ok so where can i find this kit
so i asked earlier if that blue print in the jzxproject forum will work for the r33 callipers and BA rotors or any of the spacers n rings above?

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Re: Brake upgrade

Post by Gordon Duax on Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:18 am

Where are you at ?
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Re: Brake upgrade

Post by Slickbackcadillac on Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:45 pm

In Australia

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Post by Gordon Duax on Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:01 pm

Well then you need to talk to people down there.
We don't have Falcons, or anything designated 'BA'.
So what we use to put Z32 rotors, or even R32 rotors on our cars, probably won't be the same as what you will need for 'BA' rotors.

When I do mine, I either use Z32 or R32 GT-R rotors.

Contact Andrew at Tecnico, he makes all that stuff I think.
His e-mail is andrewsee (at) live.com.au
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Re: Brake upgrade

Post by cuttz on Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:26 pm

I use r33 gtst calipers and ba falcon 300 mm rotors all perfect bolt on with no adaptors just need a hubcap trip ring made up and your good to go.
I bought brand new ba falcon rotors from da at a good price on ebay. Andrew can make you the rings for stuff all

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Re: Brake upgrade

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Re: Brake upgrade

Post by cuttz on Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:41 am

Yes said hub ring from andrew from his site is all you need for the ba falcon r33 upgrade

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